Thursday, February 21, 2008

Stud 8 Strategy, Part III: Examples and Tidbits

(Note: Stud 8 strategy is down 1/2 page)


I've been posting rarely lately. Bad blogger. Meanwhile, BuddyDank has been posting daily, sitting at my blogger tables, and even winning money playing NL cash. Must be a leap year.

So, as a way of showing I care, I will put some actual poker content in this post.

No back-to-back Mookie title for me, going out in 6th when QQ loses to the superior AQ. I guess we were all playing for 2nd anyways, since surflexus was at the table. Congrats!

Riverchasers has just started, and I'm noticing that bloggers are, well, less than adept at Stud H/L. So, now I present the latest installment of Stud H/L strategy. Previous posts can be found here and here. Also, I have started a strategy reference section in the side column.

Without further ado:
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I'm providing a couple examples of good Stud 8 hands, to help you get a feel for what kind of hands you should be calling down and showing down. Experience, minus the buy-ins.



Here is a beautiful starting hand. Looking at the other players, only one card we really care about is gone. (It's the 5) All those limpers...call and come in under the radar.



Okay, here we are on 4th street. Looks like the QQ doesn't have trips, because he checked to the 2 low hands. (If he has trips that's a BAD move) We get raised, so it's not the greatest situation, but no reason to panic yet. Calling...



Again the QQ checks, and now we have one of them. Other low also bricked, and it's looking more and more like 2 pair, or at least aces. Most people won't go crazy on A234J.



Sweet, the best card we could find. Completes our low, and gives us the open-ended straight draw. This is a mandatory raise, because if he's chasing a low, we need to charge full price. Plus, we're still looking at a good scoop possibility, with 6 cards left to make our straight. Remember, 6 outs in Stud is WAY different than Hold'em, because the remaining deck is much smaller.



GIN! Ship it.


Hand #2:


Here's a final table hand. Again looks like we're probably behind right now, but worth a look at 4th. Especially since 7 of our 8 straight cards are still out.



Again, the check tells us what we need to know about the A (going for a low), and we hit one of our two dream cards. Starting Gappers like 347 and 468 are harder to fill, but better disguised when they do.



W00t! Now can he release? Never. He's hoping we have a 7-low only, or maybe paired (or 8 down). If it's 5th street, and you're doing the "hoping", that means it's time to fold. 3 big bets to call, maybe drawing dead, probably only able to win half. So look closely at the pot right now. It's deceptive, because really he's calling 5000 chasing 8250. Release, there will be other hands.




Scoop! Raise your arms up like a made field goal and yell it. SCOOP!



A Couple More Thoughts:

Playing high pairs is fine, although watch out, you don't want to be going against a low who is freerolling. So, with that much danger already, observe this simple rule, NEVER CHASE HIGH from behind. If raising on 3rd, and reraised by a bigger pair, fold. Peel if you want, but don't say I didn't warn you.


Donkette folds on 5th, because she knows what's up.



Wired pairs can be vicious, and I will often chase as long as it's cheap, and as long as both outs are available. Spiking trips can win 3, 4, even 5 big bets, since it's so well diguised. The reward here is huge, even compared with hitting your pocket pair on the turn in Hold'em. Check the chip counts, before and after.



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Riverchasers (Stud H/L) update:

Well, if you need to see my credentials, I guess I can show you this:



Key hand:


This ended up being a split pot when he rivers (I assume it was the river from the betting) the treetop straight. 90% of the time this scoops, and I take a dominating lead. Ah well, next time.

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